Re: [ANNOUNCE] STklos version 0.50

From: Andrew Dorrell <>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:14:27 +1100


Not sure whether I can post to this list still from my new address...

GTK will certainly breath life into the project... as you note, interest
in Tk is dying (or dead).

I'm just interested... was there a reason for going with GTK over QT
(political, ethical, technical etc...)?

Erick Gallesio wrote:
> Hi Paolo,
> Pleased to see you here again.
> >
> > > Whereas STk used the Tk toolkit, STklos preferred the GTK+ graphical
> > > toolkit. This choice was dictated by the low activity around Tk (no
> >
> > Which version of GTK+ is required to run STklos 0.50?
> I have compiled it with a 1.2.8, but it should work with any 1.2 I
> think.
> >
> >
> > > new widgets for several years) and by, on contrary, the effervescence
> > > around GTK+. STklos is not completely compatible with STk but it
> >
> > Does this imply that STklos will use the latest features of GTK+, and that
> > it will be necessary to chase the latest releases of GTK+?
> >
> Not at all. In fact I will not used a patched version of the library
> (as I did in old STk), since GTK offers enough way to work with it
> with a foreign language). I don't like the system which oblige you to
> use the version of a library which was just commited yesterday on the
> CVS of the project to work and will not impose it to you :-) The plan
> consists to use the version which is broadly available in current
> distributions. So for now it is 1.2 and it will be 1.4 (or 2.0 when it
> will be massively adopted). For now, support of GTK is very primitive, and
> it definitively needs more work. Consider GTK support as a "proof of
> concept" thing. In particular, I need to offer more widgets.
> The problems that I have with using 1.2 distribution is the lack of
> the canvas widget (which is gnome for now) and for a decent text
> widget (1.2 GTk widget is far from satisfying). Anyway it seem that
> the latter will be solved in 1.4 to be identical to what we have in
> Tk. For the former, I don't know what is the plan but if needed I will
> add only the canvas widget in the distribution to have something
> similar to STk.
> I'm also interested by widgets sets which are less broadly distributed
> such as GTKExtra (or something like that). Here again I plan to use an
> approach similar to the gmp package: if you have t installed on your
> machine, stklos will use it, otherwise, it will use the one shipped in
> the tarball. This will make distributions larger but self contained.
> -- Erick

Andrew Dorrell PhD.        Research Engineer
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